Curse

HawkofStorms · Nov 14, 2008, 02:25 AM // 02:25

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Originally Posted by Calista BlackBlood

Decreasing the grind was fine,but punishing those with legendary guardian already really was a kick in the proverbials

How is this a kick to anybody? EVERYBODY, whether you have legendary guardian or just bought the game today is on the same playing field when it comes to getting rewards for books. They aren't "punishing" you they are putting you on a level playing field.

Seriously, I CAN'T believe how many people are complaing that just because I beat Phrophecies on this character 3 years ago, I deserve a free 50k when I log in today. Actually, it is Guru. I take that back. I'm not surprised.

Yang Whirlwind · Nov 14, 2008, 02:26 AM // 02:26

I think most of the update seems good. It is a little hard to evaluate the individual point values at this point,- but that's minor.
This will probably get a few people fired up enough to keep them happy and playing the game for the next year.

Not a lot for those of us with GWAMM,- but then again I didn't expect there would be.

Only thing I'm really missing, is a bonus for Lucky, which I haven't maxed yet. :P

Stuart444 · Nov 14, 2008, 02:29 AM // 02:29

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Originally Posted by Chocobo1

Uh I don't think you realize that achievments aren't meant to be all fun, you are supposed to work for them and be able to show off your ability. More often than not, doing fun things in life doesn't give you any beneifts. Hard work does.

uhh lol, just because its an achievement, doesn't mean it isn't fun.

seriously, it's a game it is for fun, end of.

Chocobo1 · Nov 14, 2008, 02:31 AM // 02:31

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Originally Posted by Stuart444

uhh lol, just because its an achievement, doesn't mean it isn't fun.

seriously, it's a game it is for fun, end of.

:/ No point arguing with someone who just wants to ezmode everything.

Thargor · Nov 14, 2008, 02:32 AM // 02:32

Great update!
Alot of people complaining about the "lost" faction, if oyu had faction before the update and turned it in you burned an equal amout of the opposite faction, nothing changed here. I really don't see the problem...

There are alot of books but I am just wondering what you people are keeping in your storage? I have 10 toons and all the storage tabs and have no storage problems. You want more storage space? Throw out some of that useless crap you have not used in months... I really don't see the problem here.

And I guess I should throw in some QQ as it seems you are not allowed to post on guru without it, I was at 27 maxed titles before the update, I am still at 27 maxed titles after the update.
WHERE THE HECK IS MY FREE GWAMM ANET!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great update dev team. I can honestly say I am very impressed with the way you have made the changes.

any info on the rewards for the new books yet?

HawkofStorms · Nov 14, 2008, 02:33 AM // 02:33

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Originally Posted by Stuart444

uhh lol, just because its an achievement, doesn't mean it isn't fun.

seriously, it's a game it is for fun, end of.

Exactly. I agree.

Yet somehow that "fun" accomplishment stops being fun just because you don't get free virtual money along with it? That's a dumb arguement. But we still won't be able to stop the QQs.

Keira Nightgale · Nov 14, 2008, 02:33 AM // 02:33

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Originally Posted by Chocobo1

:/ No point arguing with someone who just wants to ezmode everything.

It's not ezmote, you clearly have a vision in wich Guild Wars is not a game, and your vision is terribly wrong (the "you" here is generic)

FengShuiDove · Nov 14, 2008, 02:35 AM // 02:35

ANet staff, take a break. This is a great update in my opinion. Are there things I don't like? Sure, but it was well worth the wait. I intend to try out the new changes soon.

[Morkai] · Nov 14, 2008, 02:38 AM // 02:38

Great update IMO. Well thought out. This is possibly the best thing since Sliced Ursan. owait

Carinae · Nov 14, 2008, 02:38 AM // 02:38

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Originally Posted by Thargor

Alot of people complaining about the "lost" faction, if oyu had faction before the update and turned it in you burned an equal amout of the opposite faction, nothing changed here. I really don't see the problem...

A player would never accumulate faction that way however, and avoid the problem entirely. That's why it's problematic.

Is it an oversight? or intentional?

That's what we need an answer from Anet. I'm fine either way, but don't want to cash in the faction yet, if they intended us to be able to get both.

Konig Des Todes · Nov 14, 2008, 02:40 AM // 02:40

Honestly, guys, just please, stop complaining. This didn't "give away" titles to people. You still have to work for things to be max. So please, please, PLEASE, just stop complaining and arguing over NOTHING.

It's a game, have fun with what you are given, if you don't like what ANet intends for the game (i.e., as little grind as possible) then you are playing the wrong game. Yes some things done with this update were bad (increasing K/L cap over 30k, not able to fill out the books ONE time after doing the missions, and just plain and simply not removing consumables), but there is still things where you have to actually work for things. So please, just put it to rest.

I'm not going to argue with any of you, I'm just asking to stop arguing. This update might not be to your expectations or to your liking, but it was still a lot of work. If you are going to argue against this, then I want you to code an update to fix the issues you see that most people will like (and not just what YOU will like!). Do that, and I will let you rant all you want, until then, shut the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing hell up!

-finds it funny that the two main arguers/trolls have flaming heads as avatars-

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Originally Posted by Issac

Really nice update, so what's the total final cap on the Alliance Faction?

Assuming the cap raising for AB, FA, JQ, and whatnot are 1 time events, the maximum will add up to: 70k, unless there is a cap under that (hope there is).

nvmu · Nov 14, 2008, 02:40 AM // 02:40

alright back to dota, i actually was hoping some of this update would give me something to do in gw but grind, owell +1 vanq today

Shadowfox1125 · Nov 14, 2008, 02:43 AM // 02:43

Wait, wait, wait. So I logged in to find 30k each of Luxon and Kurz faction, which means if I want to use any of it, I'll lose some of the other. That just annoys me.

FrAnt1c² · Nov 14, 2008, 02:43 AM // 02:43

79 Zaishen keys, You dont hear me complaining... Good Update!!!! x

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Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125

Wait, wait, wait. So I logged in to find 30k each of Luxon and Kurz faction, which means if I want to use any of it, I'll lose some of the other. That just annoys me.

I didnt lose anything...

blackknight1337 · Nov 14, 2008, 02:44 AM // 02:44

I can only say one thing....the deliberate kick in the balls to those of us with legendary guardian is absolutely pathetic.

We put all that time into your game when it had tremendously lousy rewards for it, and you can't give the rewards to us now "because it might negatively affect the economy"...this is complete baloney.

And no, I'm sure as hell not doing it over again.

aaannnddd more tourny points....well guess not all things are screwed.

Lord Natural · Nov 14, 2008, 02:45 AM // 02:45

Meh. Does anyone really want to do Legendary Gaurdian again? Gimme retroactive book, pls/kthx.

HawkofStorms · Nov 14, 2008, 02:45 AM // 02:45

To be fair Azazel, the ranting and raving on this thread is relatively mild compared to some update threads. Some have had FAR more epic 'OMGZ wtf A.netz" reactions. I remember one update thread was closed literally with an hour and a half because of trolls. I think too many people (even the ones complaining) are happy about the wisdom/treasure hunter titles to notice (you can't deny that is a good idea, since everybody just moved their golds and IDed them on one character anyway).

Edit: No ONE "lost" any faction when they spend on one side vs the other. Everyone who logged on today suddenly got a free ~30k faction. Just because you didn't get to get a free ~60k faction people still complain... sigh. It is still a NET GAIN PEOPLE!

nvmu · Nov 14, 2008, 02:45 AM // 02:45

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Originally Posted by Azazel The Assassin

-finds it funny that the two main arguers/trolls have flaming heads as avatars-

If one of those two is me, which i am assuming it is nice burn, that was cleaver, on a side note yes this took alot of work, and i do appreciate the attempt, however the books rly need to be 1 time retroactive, thats my main issue with this update, and the l/k faction thing, i'm thinking they made it so who had to choose which 1 you wanted to have it go on, no big deal w/e, but yet still no endgame material

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

No ONE "lost" any faction when they spend on one side vs the other. Everyone who logged on today suddenly got a free ~30k faction. Just because you didn't get to get a free ~60k faction people still complain... sigh. It is still a NET GAIN PEOPLE!

you are absolutely right, which is why i have not complained about it, however 30k? i only got 18k on both, but hey it was still 3 donates and 1 skill

Alfrond · Nov 14, 2008, 02:48 AM // 02:48

Great job A-NET. I'm sure this update took a long time to create, but your hard work shows and is appreciated.

Parson Brown · Nov 14, 2008, 02:50 AM // 02:50

I don't want to complain, but using the economy as a defense for not making the books retro? Heck, the update gave me 120k in Z keys!